Maybe it’s because I’ve never used a true organic shampoo and conditioner, but the shampoo is extremely thin (like water thin) and it doesn’t lather at all. Usually I have a problem with conditioners being too thin and I prefer it on the thick side to help combing afterwards because my hair is very fine and tangles. This conditioner is great! The smell is nice (although a little on the strong side) and my hair is very soft and frizz free after blow drying. Overall, this is a very good product.